Western society has turned breast feeding into something weird. In Australia, we’re having another argument over it now – by which I mean people are taking to Facebook to vent their passionate feelings on both sides of the subject after a mother was asked to cover up at a local pool while breastfeeding. It’s a very privileged society that gets to argue about how and where mothers can feed their children ‘naturally’ while many people around the world have to worry about whether or not they can feed their children.
While that argument can remind us of the bigger picture, the problem is that most of us live in our own pictures – naturally. It’s hard to think of anything other than our own problems because they’re there, and we have to deal with them, you don’t have to deal with a hungry stranger miles away. When you live in a land where you’re not going hungry, then relating to another’s hunger is difficult. So what can we relate to? Facebook arguments. One thing that was repeatedly written as comments on one Facebook page was the argument that women putting up pictures of themselves breastfeeding, they were giving free ‘wank material’ to men.
What? ‘Wank material?’ Plainly, that’s offensive to men. They can’t handle seeing a slither of the top of a woman’s breast without being able to control themselves? Especially since that breast is mostly covered by the pulled up shirt, the baby itself and the mother’s arm. The act itself is not sexual. In making breastfeeding a secret taboo, it becomes this mysterious thing with a sexual undertone. “No, you can’t see it because you’re a boy (and who knows what might happen)”.When something isn’t part of the normal culture and you don’t see it often, and you grow up knowing women hide away to do it, then it becomes abnormal, and also confronting to see in person. In reality, it shouldn’t be something we bat an eyelid about.
You do not see a naked person. The act isn’t sexual.
But covering up women over the argument that men can’t control themselves is nothing new. Just look at any period of history and you’ll find something. I wonder why men aren’t bothered by the idea that they’re viewed as animals who would no sooner see an uncovered woman then rape her? Or do they just tolerate this idea for their greater good of female oppression? I’ll get back to topic.
I’m more offended and uncomfortable when I see teenage girls wearing shorts so short their bum cheeks hang out. I’m more offended by teenagers walking around in crop tops. I’m doubly offended by children who can’t possibly be older than fourteen wearing these same outfits. I’m more offended by the idea that this is more normal than a woman breastfeeding her child at the park is. I’m offended by giant breasts on public billboards in lace bras than I am a small glimpse of breast at a baby’s mouth.

…Pretty much.
There is nothing inherently wrong with a mother feeding her child with her breasts, but try as those rascal kids might it just ain’t right when fourteen year old ladies have less clothes on than me. Is this the same sort of thinking, though? Are they even related enough to talk about in one topic? They both involve flashes of flesh in a public area, but is that enough to place them together in an argument? Should we be free with our bodies in every way or will sexual pandemonium break out? There are reasons why you cannot be naked in public or engage in sexual acts in public, aside from the fact that most citizens don’t want to see your doughy bottom humping away at someone else’s doughy bottom, it’s also a health and safety risk. The only safety risk 11 year old’s in bikinis pose is causing traffic accidents.
One excuse others posed was that breastfeeding mothers were being ‘selfish’ by feeding in a public place. Yes, you’re so right, it’s selfish to not let you child go hungry. And it’s not selfish at all to ask a mother to not feed. Look, I refuse to believe that breastfeeding women are stripping off entirely and plopping themselves down in front of kids or groups of oggling men. That would be selfish and attention seeking. Most women are naturally discreet when feeding, because it’s an experience only between them and their child, even if sometimes they have to do it while at the back of a restaurant or at the pool. I have yet to see a woman completely flop out (what a gruesome description) a breast and walk around with it hanging there in front of a crowd. Perhaps you have, and if so, I have a feeling this woman would be in the minority.
Here’s the other side: some pro-public breastfeeders say that no woman should have to hide. But what if you want to? Just like some woman like covering up and aren’t made to. If you’re the lady who wants to have a blanket over your chest or who wants to go into another room that’s fine! That’s your comfort level. If you don’t want men watching then that’s perfectly fine, it’s your comfort level and completely understandable since, though I did claim it to be offensive to suggest that all men looking are perverts the fact is it that you don’t actually know if the one sitting at the other table is or isn’t. Discretion is great, and it does not mean sitting in the toilets. Discretion can be just turning your back – and that’s not giving up a right or being shunned, it’s just a small slice of that thing privacy.
I’ll be that mum. I don’t even wear short shorts in public and only the hottest days will get me to cast off a cardigan, and that’s okay too, I also don’t judge other women in shorts. Oh no wait, I totally judge the parents of 13 year old’s in short shorts. Damn, almost perfect. Nothing is though, is it? It’s about feeling safe enough to do what you’re most comfortable doing (without the stripping off your forcing boobies in faces, which er, isn’t going to happen if it does become more acceptable). Some will sit at the dining table to do it, some will go to the bathroom. It’s a choice. The only thing we have to change is our sneering, disgusted attitudes towards the mothers at the dining table.
[One original photo link. Boys, if you're turned on by this photo then I think you might be into the colour green, not breasts.]
[It is legal in Australia to breastfeed in public places]

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The argument that breastfeeding is a sexual act is beyond ridiculous. Men are not naturally conditioned to even find breasts arousing! It’s the fact that they are hidden that causes the fixation. Tribal communities in Africa, Asia and everywhere else walk around with boobs swinging, kids suckling and no guys are ogling or, for goodness sake, having a wank!
In the past in British society for example it was taboo to see even the ankle of a woman. Yes back then a female ankle had the same potency as a breast and would cause physical arousal in the same manner.
Heck if we covered up female elbows tomorrow in a few years guys would be getting boners over an elbow flash!
Breastfeeding is the most normal, natural and healthy thing in the word, physically, psychologically and culturally. It should be promoted and supported. And as for seeing peoples boobs or butts or floppy willies, c’mon it’s just the human body! When did our natural state become something gross and disgusting?!
Nudity does not equal sex, they are two very different things.
Ok rant over lol, clearly it’s a very hot topic, thanks for posting!!
Rohan.
Excellent points. I think western culture worships the sexual and when women have babies, we don’t expect then to be sexual. In a culture where a lot of skin is shown, I think people get confused about the sexual connotations of breasts combined with the motherly act of feeding a baby. It’s the Madonna/whore complex writ large.
I can’t believe they are still debating this issue in 2013! It makes me very cross. I love the way you have accurately and succinctly documented the many points. I was at Nthland 17yrs ago with a friend feeding her baby in the food court. A security guard asked her to do it in the toilet. I said to him “go away, off you go, go away” He did and we complained and were sent an apology but it shook us both up rather badly. Her husband was very upset too. People are nuts. babies need milk to survive. Geeeze.
Haha nice work. I can imagine being shaken up because you’d feel like you were doing something shameful and needed to be embarrassed. Quite the opposite. Humans are strange creatures.
Awesome. Very interesting post. I agree: the main issue is the sexualization of breast-feeding, which is not a sexual act at all.
Thank you. THANK YOU! Great post. The ‘debate’ is much the same here in Canada – it’s legal to breastfeed in any public place – considered a human right in most provinces, actually – but people are often asked to stop, cover up or go sit in the washroom. Why should the baby eat their lunch in the washroom, I wonder? I’m thankful that in 4.5 years of breastfeeding between two kids I never had anyone speak against me, even though I did it here, there and everywhere, but a friend of mine was in a similar situation a few years ago and was asked to leave a public pool. She complained to the media and received death threats. Death threats! It’s ridiculous. Humans are mammals and breasts are made for feeding babies. If you don’t like seeing someone breastfeeding, you evolved with the ability to rotate your neck from one side to the other for a reason. Look the other way.
Being asked to sit in the washroom sounds so amazingly degrading!
I can’t believe your friend had death threats! Over breastfeeding… which every woman does… and isn’t a reason to freak out over… People are insane.
Haha love the last bit, how true. It seems a lot of people don’t have this ability when they don’t like something.
Not every woman breastfeeds, though, and that’s another private choice that people love to publicly debate. I think people just love to judge moms overall.
I agree with all of this. I’m not offended by a mother breastfeeding in public, it can make me a tad uncomfortable but that’s me and nothing to do with them. If the baby is hungry and they happen to be out, how can they just ignore the child until they get home, especially if it’ll be some time. Like you said forcing it to be something done hidden away is making it taboo, and free wank material? I have never met a man that considered a breast feeding woman something to pleasure themselves over. I think it’s kind of sad, and it shouldn’t be turned into some huge issue.
I’ve also never come across a man whose sexual pleasure comes from breastfeeding. Though I suppose it wouldn’t be something they would advertise… Gross.
It’s true, it shouldn’t be a huge issue. Why can’t we all just agree to breastfeed nicely, no exhibitionist behaviour from some women, and no asking women to go to the toilet to feed from other people. Then we’ll all get along! Perhaps if they had education on breastfeeding in schools – don’t remember learning anything about it as a child or teenager it would be more normal.
Two words: Gender Stereotypes. Men-dominated world where women are not only mostly viewed as objects (hence short shorts, though some girls simply like wearing less clothes than the others) but also viewed as objects of the domicile and, once with the baby, are considered to be someone else’s property. Disturbing stuff. Though I agree, it would be nice for women who wish it to have peaceful and quiet places to feed their children as this is an intimate process (as much as French-kissing) and is, in my opinion, more enjoyable when no one’s watching.
This piece is well written, I’ve enjoyed reading it.
Thank you! As you say, it’s definitely an intimate process. I don’t really understand the women who are exhibitionists and want people (other than the baby’s father or their family) to watch, and there are women like that who sort of fall outside the debate because they’re not just being seen when they don’t ask to be, but they’re asking for attention from strangers during feeding. I’ve been told some horror stories since posting this! haha.
Thanks for the comment
Interesting debate
My sister is a new mother, but because of my aunt whipping it out at random when she was little, made her uncomfortable with that. My sister is the type of girl who was actually arrested for indecent exposure in a public area several years ago, not a mother then, but she’s extremely comfortable with herself. She has the cutest little cover up that tents so she can see the baby and look down. She always asks people if they mind, they never do especially with the nifty cover. I don’t know, I personally do not want to see my sister’s boobs, but hey to each their own. I like that she can feed the baby without being quite so…showy. So my stance is, I don’t care if I don’t have to have the visual.
Your sister sounds really awesome and polite! I think a part of the not liking breastfeeding mothers can be that some women have an attitude of ‘look at me breastfeeding, don’t even think about saying anything’ and it can be quite hostile and exhibitionist-y, and that makes people uncomfortable.
Thanks for commenting because you show the side (even if it is your sister, so doesn’t quite count haha) that not all guys want to see breasts in that situation, whereas we get told that all men do, and they’ll look and pervert it.
A great post, very thought provoking.I guess it all boils down to a confusion of what the right behaviour should be in a fast changing society.
Shakti
Thank you, and it’s true. We’re all unsure of what’s socially acceptable and whether or not ‘socially acceptable’ manners are still a necessity or if it’s a thing of the past.
Great Post!!
I breastfeed all over the place. If my baby is hungry then I’m going to feed him. I’m actually glad that I’m living in Scotland their legislation makes it an offence to stop nursing mothers from feeding their babies in places like bars, buses and shopping centres. They can be fined up to £2,500 or nearly $4000AUD. Pretty cool huh?
I wrote about breastfeeding during NaBloPoMo – http://ourmulticolouredlife.com/2012/11/27/breastfeeding-the-beauty-and-the-beast/
Oh wow! I suppose stopping someone from feeding is pretty much just saying ‘eff you’ to babies.
Thanks for the link
Great post
I’d just like to point out that some babies are easily distracted by what’s happening around them and thus some women ‘cover-up’ or ‘hide’ purely so the baby can concentrate on eating, rather than to not risk offending those around them.
I have openly breastfed in public on many occasions and no one has batted an eyelid. I think perhaps people are a little less conservative in that respect up here in Finland.
That’s very true, and covering up really is perfectly alright.
European countries often sound kinder to the mother.
I think the whole “it’s indecent to breast feed in public” argument is ridiculous, and I do think it comes down to a sexualization and marginalization of women’s bodies.
Very true! I also remember learning in psychology class that a lot of men are turned off their wives after they have a baby, because they’re incapable of separating the sexual part of their wife (or partner) and the mother side of their partner, which can also stir up mixed emotions about their own mothers.
Men have strange psychologies sometimes me thinks… haha.
But that could also explain some men’s disgusted attitudes to breastfeeding.
There have been some really disturbing comments around about this. One comment I read this morning was along the lines of “only women with no class breast feed.” Women of every class have breasts, so why shouldn’t they use them for what they are actually there for? I personally don’t feel 100% comfortable if there is a woman nearby breastfeeding, but then I think to myself, what business is it of mine? If I’m not comfortable, that’s my problem. A hungry baby has to eat!
While they ban breastfeeding in public, how about they ban eating delicious food on trains – the smell always makes me so damn hungry and it’s not fair that I’m not eating that food. And low cut jeans that show the top of your bum crack (sorry for choice of words). That REALLY offends me.
You’re right. It’s the woman’s choice and her comfort level. There’s not always going to be a parents room to go sit in to feed the baby. And what happens if you forget to pack a blanket to cover the baby and breast while feeding? Sorry baby, you’ll just have to hungry until we get home in five hours, at which point everyone on the bus on the way home (probably not comfortable with seeing your breast) will be wishing that your screaming baby would be quiet.
There are plenty of things in society that haven’t been happening since forever, that need to be fixed before ridiculous ideas like this come up.
Oh wow. Perhaps women without class breast feed completely shirtless and put their boobs in your faces, haha, but not the regular mums.
I was always uncomfortable when I was young the few times I saw breastfeeding because I had never really seen it before and was like, ‘woah! what is she doing??’
Haha oh man if they ban that then they should definitely ban BBQ’s because when their smells waft into my yard my stomach goes nuts with desire!
That’s a good point: a crying baby is looked at like ‘shut up!’ but so is preventing them from crying with breastfeeding. People just don’t like babies in public.
People are babyist. hahha.
Breast milk is better for the child, good points!!
Great piece on this little debate that’s been stirring up lately again. Nice to read an intelligent and thought through opinion on it all!
Haha thank you for the kind words! I wonder how many times this debate will be stirred up again…